Israel Ricky Gonzales

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  TV.JW.ORG (September 2015) - Generation explained again

  by Designer Stubble in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  guess the overlapping generation concept is difficult for most to comprehend.

  david spane does his best to explain it again.

  the cutoff date for this generation has now moved to 1992 (was once 1935), the year that fred franz died.

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  Israel Ricky Gonzales

  I'm sure Sanderson started partaking 10 minutes before FWF died.
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  TV.JW.ORG (September 2015) - Generation explained again

  by Designer Stubble in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  guess the overlapping generation concept is difficult for most to comprehend.

  david spane does his best to explain it again.

  the cutoff date for this generation has now moved to 1992 (was once 1935), the year that fred franz died.

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  Israel Ricky Gonzales

  Did Jesus not say: “Therefore, when you catch sight of the disgusting thing that causes desolation, as spoken about by Daniel the prophet, standing in a holy place (let the reader use discernment), 16 then let those in Ju·deʹa begin fleeing to the mountains."?????

  I suppose that this also happened in 1914 because Jesus clearly stated that "Likewise also you, when you see all these things (mentioned in Matt 24) , know that he is near at the doors.

  David, you have some more 'Splaining to do, for argument sake.
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  When is a commandment ever worded with "IF"?

  by Israel Ricky Gonzales in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  acts 15:28 for the holy spirit and we ourselves have favored adding no further burden to you except these necessary things: 29 to keep abstaining from things sacrificed to idols, from blood, from what is strangled, and from sexual immorality.

  if you carefully keep yourselves from these things, you will prosper.

  good health to you!.

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  I just found it odd that such a serious command to abstain from certain activities contains the qualifier "if". I no longer base my beliefs on "if....then..." argumentation. Just my thoughts tho.

  and I never bought into the whole "good health to you" part either.
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  What woke you up?

  by Israel Ricky Gonzales in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  in march of 2014, i was a very active jw, a ministerial servant, gave a public talk, was an attendant for the memorial, and one of 4 cleaning captains for an international convention of 40,000+ attendees.

  so what woke me up?

  an innocent comment from a co-worker about the candice conti court case rang a bell that could not be unrung.

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  Israel Ricky Gonzales

  mrquick,

  i am also avoided like the plague. And my second disfellowshipping took 2 years and 5 letters. The arrogant elders did everything to discourage me from coming back but it didn't work.
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  What woke you up?

  by Israel Ricky Gonzales in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  in march of 2014, i was a very active jw, a ministerial servant, gave a public talk, was an attendant for the memorial, and one of 4 cleaning captains for an international convention of 40,000+ attendees.

  so what woke me up?

  an innocent comment from a co-worker about the candice conti court case rang a bell that could not be unrung.

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  Israel Ricky Gonzales

  Rattigan350

  I can only tell it like it is. It was a quick, rude awakening.
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  When is a commandment ever worded with "IF"?

  by Israel Ricky Gonzales in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  acts 15:28 for the holy spirit and we ourselves have favored adding no further burden to you except these necessary things: 29 to keep abstaining from things sacrificed to idols, from blood, from what is strangled, and from sexual immorality.

  if you carefully keep yourselves from these things, you will prosper.

  good health to you!.

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  Israel Ricky Gonzales

  Acts 15:28 For the holy spirit and we ourselves have favored adding no further burden to you except these necessary things: 29 to keep abstaining from things sacrificed to idols, from blood, from what is strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you carefully keep yourselves from these things, you will prosper. Good health to you!”

  If blood was so sacred, to be abstained from, why was this verse worded this way? Why wouldn't it say "By carefully keeping yourselves from these things, you will prosper. Good health to you!”? IMO, that makes more sense than throwing the word "if" in the mix because it leaves the door open that it is not mandatory.
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  EXACTLY Why JW's Are NOT Christian

  by Perry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a lot of people, ex-jws, believers and unbelievers alike, think that jw's are just a somewhat kooky brand of christianity.

  is it possible to "try and follow jesus" and not be christian?

  what exactly makes someone a christian?

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  Israel Ricky Gonzales

  JWs are not Christian. They are witnesses of Jehovah, not Christ.

  Acts 1:8 But you will receive power when the holy spirit comes upon you, and you will be witnesses of me in Jerusalem, in all Ju·deʹa and Sa·marʹi·a, and to the most distantpart of the earth.”

  Acts 2:1, 4 Now while the day of the Festival of Pentecost was in progress, they were all together at the same place. 4 and they all became filled with holy spirit and started to speak in different languages, just as the spirit enabled them to spreak.

  Acts 11:26 ... it was first in Antioch that the disciples were by divine providence called Christians.

  The do preach a different gospel. Their good news is a paradise earth, no sickness, no death.

  Acts 17:11 But some of both the Ep·i·cu·reʹan and the Stoʹic philosophers began disputing with him, and some were saying: “What is it this chatterer would like to tell?” Others: “He seems to be a proclaimer of foreign deities.” This was because he was declaring the good news of Jesus and the resurrection.

  They are false teachers and false prophets that tickle the ears of the downtrodden with a promise of living forever on a paradise earth that is concocted from numerous unrelated scriptures.
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  Ray Franz was an Idiot

  by vinman in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  ray franz who gave us insight into the gb due to a crisis of conscience was an absolute moron, with absolutely no critical thinking skills whatsoever like all of us have.

  i mean, to have a conscience based on some magic man in the sky.. how stupid can you be?

  in search of christian freedom?

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  Israel Ricky Gonzales

  Didn't we all basically do what this vinman person did? Judge people based on their beliefs? I think this post is a desperate attempt for attention, which is working. Well done vinman.
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  Baby steps taken with a grain of salt

  by Israel Ricky Gonzales in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  seeing how my jw wife nearly lost it when i woke up to ttatt and was df'd just over a year ago, she has been showing cracks in her armor.. 1. she has stopped pioneering to resume her good-paying career, working full-time.. 2. she suggested marriage counseling.. 3. she suggested going to a latin rap concert at a casino for our anniversary.. 4. when we reconciled recently and began living together as a family again, she agreed to alternate weeks of jw activity with the kids, one week doing the jw thing with her and the next week not doing the jw thing with me .

  5. she hasn't had perfect attendance at meetings or for field service since she started working full-time.

  just last night, she skipped meeting to help co-workers prepare food for an employee appreciation luncheon held today.

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  Israel Ricky Gonzales

  I think my kids are playing a role in the cracks in her armor. They enjoyed having their birthdays with me, as well as celebrating XMAS. She sees that we did nothing "pagan"in our celebrations. So, our freedom has to be a factor in her awakening.
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  Baby steps taken with a grain of salt

  by Israel Ricky Gonzales in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  seeing how my jw wife nearly lost it when i woke up to ttatt and was df'd just over a year ago, she has been showing cracks in her armor.. 1. she has stopped pioneering to resume her good-paying career, working full-time.. 2. she suggested marriage counseling.. 3. she suggested going to a latin rap concert at a casino for our anniversary.. 4. when we reconciled recently and began living together as a family again, she agreed to alternate weeks of jw activity with the kids, one week doing the jw thing with her and the next week not doing the jw thing with me .

  5. she hasn't had perfect attendance at meetings or for field service since she started working full-time.

  just last night, she skipped meeting to help co-workers prepare food for an employee appreciation luncheon held today.

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  Israel Ricky Gonzales

  Seeing how my JW wife nearly lost it when I woke up to TTATT and was DF'd just over a year ago, she has been showing cracks in her armor.

  1. She has stopped pioneering to resume her good-paying career, working full-time.

  2. She suggested marriage counseling.

  3. She suggested going to a Latin rap concert at a casino for our anniversary.

  4. When we reconciled recently and began living together as a family again, she agreed to alternate weeks of JW activity with the kids, one week doing the JW thing with her and the next week not doing the JW thing with me

  5. SHe hasn't had perfect attendance at meetings or for field service since she started working full-time. Just last night, she skipped meeting to help co-workers prepare food for an employee appreciation luncheon held today. She was never one to miss meetings for anything when we were both dubbs. And on top of that, she shows up to meetings at the very last minute.

  So, I'm taking these baby steps with a grain of salt because she has shown zero inclinations of any sort of doubt. But one has to start somewhere when waking up. 👍😉